Hi y'all. Okay, I know this was a discussion on the previous site but I wanted to bring it back. I have read and reread Revelations, trying to understand why the WTS teaches about the 144,000 being the only ones
going to heaven. I have compared the NWT version with the NIV version to see if there was a major wording difference - which there isn't. Therefore, I cannot understand their defining of the 144,000 being the ONLY ONES going to heaven.
Revelation 7 speaks about the 144,000 in the first 8 verses. Then it goes on to say in Revelation 7:9-17: After this I looked, and behold
, a great multitude which no man could number
, from every nation, from all
tribes and peoples
and tongues, standing before the throne
and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands, and crying out with a loud voice, "Salvation belongs to our God who sits upon the throne, and to the Lamb!"
And all the angels stood round the throne and round the elders and the four living creatures, and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, saying, "Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom and thanksgiving and honor and power and might be to our God for ever and ever! Amen." Then one of the elders addressed me, saying, "Who are these, clothed in white robes, and whence have they come?" I said to him, "Sir, you know." And he said to me, "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night within his temple; and he who sits upon the throne will shelter them with his presence. They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; the sun shall not strike them, nor any scorching heat. For the Lamb in the midst of the throne will be their shepherd, and he will guide them to springs of living water; and God will wipe away every tear from their eyes."
Okay, so if only 144,000 are going to heaven, why is it that the Apostle John says he saw "a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb
" (NWT)? How do they explain this "great crowd" standing before the throne? Isn't the throne in heaven and not here on earth? It is clear that this crowd that the Apostle John saw was in heaven and in addition to the 144,000!
If we take the 144,000 to be a literal number, then why doesn't the WTS also take what Revelation says about these select few as literal as well? In Revelation 14:3-5, it says "and they sing a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and before the elders. No one could learn that song except the hundred and forty-four thousand who had been redeemed from the earth. It is these who have not defiled themselves with women
, for they are chaste; it is these who follow the Lamb wherever he goes; these have been redeemed from mankind as first fruits for God and the Lamb, and in their mouth no lie was found, for they are spotless
Can any of those in the JWs honestly say they are "chaste" and "spotless"? So why do they believe that only JWs can be considered to be of the 144,000. If I recall correctly, most of them are or were married (can't be chaste then!). And, they readily admit to lying as being "okay to do" if done to prove their loyalty to Jehovah and in fulfilling his sacred obligation to engage in spiritual warfare.
Revelation 7:14 says the great multitude is "they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes
and made them white in the blood of the Lamb". I bring that up again because in Revelation 22:14, Jesus says "Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and that they may enter the city by the gates."
Stupid question but, am I reading Revelations wrong? Or does God feel I'm not as smart as the GB and can't interpret Revelations correctly?
Just a bit of what's been going on in my brain lately.