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 Post subject: Re: Brochure
PostPosted: Mon 08 Jan, 2007 3:23 pm 
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NowImFree wrote:
Hi Bruce,

I think Allthingsnew is talking about "The end of false religion is near" brochure. I saw scans of it on another forum, I don't actually have my own copy.

As far as the volumes of the Ante Nicene Fathers writings, do you have to buy them or can you get them from the library? I looked at someone elses and I thought they got them from the library but maybe they owned them.


I don't know if you can get them from the library or not, but because JW's are so suspicious of writings that don't come from the WT I wanted to try and remove "some" of that thinking from my wife.

And really, all you should have to do is show where just one of these fathers believed Christ to be God and that should throw suspicion on anything they say, that's what sealed it for me, when I started looking into this.


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Thanks friendly sid...
ok I'm going to check my local library about the ante-nicene fathers books.

bruce, don't worry about sending me the books...but I would like for you to email me the stuff you worked up whenever you get the chance..no rush or anything. And nowimfree is right...it's the brochure that you couldn't believe it when you were reading...the end of false religion is near.

lauren


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I was just doing some searching and you can access these ante-nicene Fathers books online if you want. The link is:
http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/
Once you click on the book it takes you to another page and if you want to view pick the "plain text" from the list and then you don't have to register.
Until you can find the books in the library then at least you can read them and get started. Hope the link works.


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PostPosted: Mon 08 Jan, 2007 5:06 pm 
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Hey Cool, could you send me that document you did regarding the Trinity teachings of the WT versus what the Fathers taught? I'm trying to see where they got their quotes from and how they pulled them out of context obviously. I started reading through the anti-nicene books but WOW, there's alot there :shock: Thanks Sahm


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I found it... it all documented on Christy's site... http://www.witforjesus.org

Here is the actual December 1st, 1916 scan:

http://www.witforjesus.org/downloads/jehovahs_witness/history/russell4.pdf

Here is the link that talks about WT cover-ups: http://www.witforjesus.org/jehovahs_witness/questionsforjws/jw_qhistorylies.php

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